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Seasonal residents shorted on ATV talks PDF Print E-mail

Dear Editor:

Word has just reached us here in Madison — from more than one of your residents and nonresidents — about what took place at the Three Lakes Town Board meeting a week or so ago concerning all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) in Three Lakes.

Our organization tracks about 9,000 households in Vilas/Oneida counties owned by nonresident landowners, i.e. seasonal residents, aka out-of-state landowners. A good bunch of them are in the town of Three Lakes. It would seem prudent for the town to have waited until the summer and brought them into the discussion given that they are property taxpayers and deserve a voice — albeit not a vote.

We agree with the Vilas County editorial that the vote looks like a “railroad” job to some opponent and we add this sort of bullying by the board not only insults residents but more so the nonresidents — who were not even considered. Our experience shows that the seasonal residents’ only weapon against this sort of prejudice is economic.

Many of your readers are former Minnesota and Illinois residents and can vote in local and statewide elections. They have experienced this sort of treatment in the past and just perhaps, they will join the rest with closing their pocketbooks to local retailers in 2013 — in a show of support against this sort of behavior. Readers should reflect on the fact that nonresident landowners are not “tourists.”

They pay Wisconsin’s outlandish property taxes, support local K-12 and UW system education, and fund local and county government programs. To compound these expenditures, they are denied reasonable recreational fees which they still pay. But for the rest of their discretionary spending in 2013? Perhaps the “tourist” will carry the day without the nonresident property owner.

Nick Kaufman

Executive Director

Wisconsin Seasonal Residents Association


Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:57 PM


-67 #12 2013-03-14 00:04
Why the negative reaction for trying to pump money into Three Lakes?

Can anyone explain the downside, or do you just click thumbs down on my comment?
-69 #11 2013-03-12 14:31
As a seasonal resident I can tell you one of the first things I am going to do when I get up there is head to Sportman's Service or Watercraft Sales and buy me an ATV.

This news is AWESOME!!! Not only does it give us seasonals something else to do, it supports local businesses.

A WIN/WIN for all.

Downsides anyone?
+68 #10 2013-03-11 21:35
I also bought a seasonal home in Vilas county back in 1995. After years of paying high taxes for schools we sold our home. Lucky fo us we sold in 2007 before crash.
We love the northwoods and the majority of people who live there. I believe the majority of people who live up north are mostly transplants from Illinois, Minnasota.
Our family still visits Up North several times a year, but we now bring our own food and camp and no longer catch and release especially since we seasonal taxpaying residents were never given even a slight break on fishing licences. Muskies taste very good actually.
We believe there are just too many gas stations, restarants, etc. for an area that only has a small total population. Maybe they should also have some motocross trails to stimulate a few more dollars. I can see the dells now! How about 10 waterparks?
Most residents realize how lucky they are to have seasonal residents. Without seasonal residents local taxes would double!
-73 #9 2013-03-11 19:18
Mr. Dodd, your comments are now too confusing. Are you selling your place or not? In comment #3 you indicate "maybe we(seasonal homeowners) should all sell."

I am simply offering to purchase your property so your dreams of an ATV free town can come true. You need take up residence in a different city/village/town where no ATV's are permitted on city/village/town streets.

I am simply asking for your contact information so that I can purchase your property since you no longer have a reason to live there.
+68 #8 2013-03-11 17:04
Apparently my comment was too confusing (???) for some here. Where does it say I'm from Detroit? To clarify: when a large percentage of the tax paying base flee a community, it could end up looking like a barren wasteland. And,,,Wealthy? What's the implication here? That every seasonal resident was born that way? That's classic LEFT talk. NOTHING was given to me, I earned everything I have. I've been working since I was 14 yrs old and chose my path thru life carefully. Left my dead end small town, paid my way thru college and excelled in a career thru hard work, sacrifice and dedication. At 48 I purchased a small vacation home. Don't hate on people who are disciplined to succeed. If there's a will there's a way.
-73 #7 2013-03-09 01:43
B. Dodd, do you have lakefront property in Three Lakes? If so I may be interested in buying your property since you seem intent on selling. What is the best way to get a hold of you?

As an aside, did you leave Detroit because they allowed ATV's on city streets?
-75 #6 2013-03-09 01:36
For a group representing so many, the Wisconsin Seasonal Residents Association really dropped the ball on this one. While now, after the vote they proclaim the unfairness of it all, where were they before the vote? I am a seasonal resident and I have never even heard of this group. Makes me suspicious.

To the town residents that feel a "railroad job" was done to them. These are the people you chose to represent you. If you don't like the decisions they make, do something about it the next time they run. We after all do not live in a democracy where the majority wins, we live in a constitutional republic.

To the non-residents complaining, if you don't like the ruling, move. It is easy as that. The representatives of the people of Three Lakes vote for what their constituents want. You are not their constituents. If you would like to be, move up there full time.
-68 #5 2013-03-08 21:15
Money should not determine who has a say. I do not make enough to own another property. I can barely pay my own taxes, let alone taxes on another property. I appreciate and know the value tourism brings to the Northwoods. However, just like I don't think Big Business (money) should determine the affairs of this country; I don't think being wealthy enough to own additional properties intitles you to the same voice as me. I too have noticed the use vs them mentality and do not approve. However, when it comes to our vary existance and livelyhood, I think I have more at stake than some that vacations here. I am indifferent on the ATV decision.
-76 #4 2013-03-08 20:22
B Dowd should the Three Lakes Town Board have meetings when only you and other out of town lands can come, or do you and the others take it upon yourself to come and attend the meetings. Hard to do their job if only can hve a meeting in July August. I do not live in Three Lakes but knew what was on the agenda. As far as Detroit please go and see maybe you can buy there.
+75 #3 2013-03-08 19:47
That's a good idea Paul. I was thinking about doing just that myself..Kind of tired of shouldering a tax burden with no input then getting that same tired old "us vs. them" response from locals. Maybe we should all sell. I'd be interested to see what a rural version of Detroit looks like

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