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Dear Editor:

Could I respond to Don Zirbel’s letter “pay the piper” in the Nov. 6 Vilas County News-Review? He responded to a letter that thanked Rep. Sean Duffy for his efforts to control our ever-increasing federal deficit.

Mr. Zirbel says that the Republicans are equally at fault for the deficit that has increased under President Obama because they currently control the House of Representatives. This is wrong because most of the spending occurred in the first two years of Obama’s presidency when Democrats controlled the House and the Senate.

Mr. Zirbel also says the Republicans should pass a good jobs bill. During President Obama’s first two years, trillions of dollars were spent on jobs stimulus with no success. Now Mr. Zirbel would have us borrow and waste even more money.

At least he didn’t blame the Republicans in the House for Obamacare.

Joyce Bant

Hazelhurst

Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:56 AM
 

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+15 #8 Jeff Laadt 2013-11-18 12:59
Ian,
I get you point. And for that matter you could have gone all the way back to the beginning of the New Deal in 1933 to make the same point. Fact is, there have been very few times in American history when the government has not been in debt, regardless of party.

Obviously your point is that Democrats are historically more responsible for this debt than Republicans. And that's a fair point; but that only goes so far. Within more recent history it is also fair to point out that some of the greatest increases in the debt occurred during the Reagan and Bush II administrations . And lessened during the Clinton years.

Jeff Laadt
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-14 #7 2013-11-17 08:21
Correct Jeff, but who has controlled the purse strings of Congress and particularly the House since WW2? Not the GOP I can assure you.
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-14 #6 Frank Gabl 2013-11-15 10:34
John,

You’re distorting the truth besides still amusingly trying to blame Bush for Obama’s incompetence and socialist policy failures.

The Stimulus did not bring unemployment below 6% in 2012 as promised; instead the opposite is the case as millions have left the work force due to lack of work resulting in a realistic unemployment rate of around 11%.

Stimulus-funded so-called “Green Energy” is a well-documented bust.

The immediate impact of Stimulus-funded “shovel-ready” jobs, "was not as shovel-ready as we expected." – Barack Obama

The Stimulus was supposed to lift 2 million Americans from poverty. But not only has 6.3 million fallen into poverty since Obama took office, but median income of the middle-class has fallen $5000.

And let’s not forget the $4.35 billion spent to bribe states into signing on to Common Core’s national education indoctrination scheme.

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-15 #5 Frank Gabl 2013-11-15 10:33
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Deficits have been going down under Obama due to Republican spending cuts and Obama’s oppressive taxation that is hurting the ones socialists love to make everyone believe they champion: the middle-class.
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+11 #4 2013-11-13 15:12
Sorry Joyce but the Govt debt is more broad reaching than just placing all the blame on Obama or the Left. We have two unfunded wars that have placed HUGE debt responsibilitie s on this country as well as the Bush tax cuts in addition to the stimulus. I know the Right loves to tout the stimulus as a failure but it was the right thing to do and the vast majority of economists agree. When the economy is in a tail spin you infuse money intto the system you DON'T use austerity measures. We have seen first hand what happens when govts attempt this....a further retraction in said economy. IF the Republicans wanted to cut the debt they would start looking at things like their sacred cows, the Dept of Defense which accounts for a HUGE sum of this nations continued debt from past present and future committments. Lastly, the Deficits have been going down under Obama, something that the Right fails to acknowledge.
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-16 #3 Frank Gabl 2013-11-13 08:57
Joyce,

You are correct and so was Mary Lou.

Ultimately, it is a president’s policies that are responsible for yearly deficits/surpluses and their corresponding debt/surplus; particularly at times when both chambers of Congress are in lockstep. And it is Barack Obama’s “unpatriotic” attitude and socialist policies that are responsible for his administration reaching Bush’s 8 years of spending in just its first 38 months.

Contrary to what the Left and Don want everyone to believe, Boehner’s House had no obligation to rubber stamp Obamacare which was fraudulently passed under a previous Democrat-controlled Congress without one Republican vote.

That was the impetus for the negotiations during the recent debt ceiling debate which is standard operating procedure whenever Congress is divided.

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-16 #2 Frank Gabl 2013-11-13 08:55
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Here’s just two pieces of Pinocchio’s puzzle to add context to the aforementioned:

http://www.americanthinker.com/video/2013/03/flashback_obama_calls_debt_under_bush_unpatriotic_and_irresponsible.html

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/16/videos-obama-0-4-for-2008-townhall-debate-promises/
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+12 #1 Jeff Laadt 2013-11-12 14:23
Ms. Bant,

To be fair, Mr. Zirbel never made the claim that "Republicans are equally at fault" for budget deficits -- although he may very well feel that way.

The point he was making was that once Congress (along with presidential concurrence) has authorized a certain level of spending, then it has the responsibility, under the Constitution, to make good on the payments.

If tax revenues are insufficient to meet these obligations, then borrowing becomes necessary. In this situation raising the debt ceiling must occur in order to pay the obligations that Congress has already authorized. It is not a case of voting for future spending.

This is an obligation that Congress, as an institution, must meet -- not one that falls to any particular political party.

Jeff Laadt
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