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Foundation of nation is still individual liberty PDF Print E-mail

Dear Editor:

I want to make it abundantly clear that the sentiments expressed in this letter are not intended to be an affront to Jeff Laadt, but rather, a genuine observation of what is taking hold at an alarming rate around us, which I maintain will hit home with most Americans.

That being said, my objective is to reluctantly point out that it appears we’ve reached the defining turning point in Barack Obama’s “transformation” of America when an average citizen like Mr. Laadt casually opines in his letter last week that the American people “need to rid ourselves of the notion that somehow government-funded health care is a socialist threat to American values.”

Put in more specific terms, it seems Mr. Laadt believes Americans must cleanse their minds and free their spirit from a most sacred unalienable right that the foundation of this nation was constructed upon — individual liberty — the very essence of what keeps free people free to control their own destiny, including health, which undeniably is a person’s most precious asset.

Laadt apparently believes that only when Americans are able to let go of this integral part of their exceptional birthright will we as a nation be capable of formulating a model of authentic government-controlled universal health care that will permit us to “join the rest of the world in a commitment to universal coverage.”

Never mind the fact that such a system is inherently socialistic at its core, thereby systematically dismantling the American values Mr. Laadt mistakenly contends would not be threatened.

Still, all is not lost if as a nation we learn from the minority of Americans who think in this manner, as well as current events, and finally wake up to the chilling reality that America is not simply guaranteed the words penned long ago in this country’s most cherished and consequential document: the Declaration of Independence.

So the invaluable lesson Mr. Laadt inadvertently teaches is that Americans who hold opposite convictions better work just as fervently to defeat such un-American philosophies as those who have fervently worked throughout the years to embed them into American culture.

Frank Gabl

Prospect Heights, Ill.

and Eagle River

Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:44 AM


-6 #18 2013-12-09 16:50
Good points Jeff. Much of life is not "absolutes" but rather variations and "grey" areas.
-4 #17 Frank Gabl 2013-12-04 08:46

You seem to rationalize that since you are oblivious to the sentiments of the people toward this nation’s founding, including what makes America exceptional, so must I. And therefore, any attempt on my part to claim to know better must be phony.

But oddly enough, you then go on to try and discredit my belief “in an exceptional relationship of Americans to liberty," by confidently asserting that you “really don't think Americans hold any such monopoly on this idea.”

Apparently, your basis for what you generally believe is grounded in a misconception, or denial, of what the words in the Declaration of Independence still truly mean to this nation as a whole even after all of these years.

Cont. below:
-4 #16 Frank Gabl 2013-12-04 08:44

So, contrary to your assertion, liberty, indeed, is an “absolute” quality - “endowed by their (our) Creator” - and therefore, not only is “timeless” but inseparable from our humanity in a macro sense.

Now I know you must have a problem with the words that a “vast majority” of Americans not only hold dear and sacred, but provides their lives with stability, meaning and purpose.

And if I am correct, it must be difficult living in a country and culture you have no genuine attachment to.
+2 #15 Jeff Laadt 2013-12-03 10:20
Thanks for the clarification. I'm just sorry that you find me such a subversive threat to your value system.

Unlike you, I don't pretend to know what some vast majority of Americans are thinking about anything; or what they hold "sacred."

I know you want to believe in some exceptional relationship of Americans to "liberty". But I really don't think Americans hold any such monopoly on this idea, either historically or in today's world. Surely, even in American history "liberty" was never an absolute quality at any given time, nor applied to all Americans.

"Liberty" needs definition and historical context. To say that your undefined word is timeless and never subject to change defies reality. America in the 21st century is not the same America of the 18th century. That fact is not being disrespectful. It is simply a statement of reality.

Jeff Laadt
-3 #14 Frank Gabl 2013-12-03 01:14

I’ll just assume you’re not pulling my leg and answer your question as though you really are naïve to how you come off.

My objections pertaining to your world view in general, and America in particular, have always been due to substance and not your freedom to speak your mind.

It’s irrefutable that the vast majority of Americans still hold a sacred attitude toward the foundation that this nation was built upon and believe that this exceptional American value of liberty is not only timeless, but is not subject to change in any way shape or form.

Therefore, your disrespect and invalidation of the Founders (“18th century mindset”) and liberty ("whatever you (I) happen to believe is ‘sacred’,” and “values change”) goes against what this nation is fundamentally all about, rendering your beliefs un-American in my opinion.

And my letter warned that my side better become proactive against this undermining of America.
0 #13 Jeff Laadt 2013-12-02 18:14

I'm really confused here. Are you saying that the very act of voicing criticism -- and the wording used to express that criticism -- somehow reveals the un-Americanism that you attribute to me? And that somehow this expression proves your point? Is that it?

I'm not that subtle, Frank. Help me to understand.

Jeff Laadt
+9 #12 2013-12-02 14:50
Frank, Hopefully you mean a Redsox fan because the white sox stink! They lost about a hundred games last year and have one of the worst farm systems in baseball! And please don't tell me about the Cubs. Most white sox fans are so obsessed with the cubs!
-5 #11 Frank Gabl 2013-12-02 13:16

Those who live in my world know "exactly" how far at all times we are from that leftist mess.

So on a bad day it's 17 minutes, 46.326 seconds and on a good day I just add 6 hours, 15 minutes.

And as far as the Bears go, I'm just thankful that I'm more of a Sox fan otherwise I'd be dead after what transpired yesterday.
0 #10 2013-12-02 12:49
And Prosperity Frank despite what the "99%" says. they should view this:
-7 #9 Frank Gabl 2013-12-02 12:47

I would have to say that your subtly articulated un-American positions of, "whatever you (I) happen to believe is 'sacred'," "American 18th century mindset" and my favorite, "values (liberty) change," - did the trick.

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